Subject: Fw: Witnesses you need to
"hear"
I'm not sure if you have seen this or not - or if
you have seen it many times - BUT, it is worth reading again - or for the
first time.
"Swiftees" respond to
Kerry
Can
you read this and tell any of these 18 men they are wrong about Kerry?
They don't hide in Anonymity , but provide their photos as well as their
names.
Swift
Boat Quotes about John Kerry
"We
resent very deeply the false war crimes charges he made coming back from
Vietnam in 1971 and repeated in the book
'Tour of Duty.' We think those cast an aspersion on all those living and
dead, from our unit and other units in Vietnam. We think that he knew he was lying
when he made the charges, and we think that they're unsupportable. We
intend to bring the truth about that to the American people. We believe,
based on our experience with him, that he is totally unfit to be the
Commander-in-Chief."
--
John O'Neill, spokesman, Swift Boat Veterans for
Truth
"I
do not believe John Kerry is fit to be Commander-in-Chief of the armed
forces of the United
States. This is not a
political issue. It is a matter of his judgment, truthfulness,
reliability, loyalty and trust -- all absolute tenets of command. His
biography, 'Tour of Duty,' by Douglas Brinkley, is replete with gross
exaggerations, distortions of fact, contradictions and slanderous lies.
His contempt for the military and authority is evident by even a most
casual review of this biography. He arrived in-country with a strong
anti-Vietnam War bias and a self-serving determination to build a
foundation for his political future. He was aggressive, but vain and prone
to impulsive judgment, often with disregard for specific tactical
assignments. He was a 'loose cannon.' In an abbreviated tour of four
months and 12 days, and with his specious medals secure, Lt.(jg) Kerry
bugged out and began his infamous betrayal of all United States forces in the Vietnam War. That
included our soldiers, our marines, our sailors, our coast guardsmen, our
airmen, and our POWs. His leadership within the so-called Vietnam Veterans
Against the War and testimony before Congress in 1971 charging us with
unspeakable atrocities remain an undocumented but nevertheless meticulous
stain on the men and women who honorably stayed the course. Senator Kerry
is not fit for command."
--
Rear Admiral Roy Hoffman, USN (retired), chairman, Swift Boat Veterans for
Truth
"During
Lt.(jg) Kerry's tour, he was under my command for two or three specific
operations, before his rapid exit. Trust, loyalty and judgment are the
key, operative words. His turncoat performance in 1971 in his grubby shirt
and his medal-tossing escapade, coupled with his slanderous lines in the
recent book portraying us that served, including all POWs and MIAs, as
murderous war criminals, I believe, will have a lasting effect on all
military veterans and their families.
Kerry
would be described as devious, self-absorbing, manipulative, disdain for
authority, disruptive, but the most common phrase that you'd hear is
'requires constant supervision.'"
--
Captain Charles Plumly, USN (retired)
"Thirty-five
years ago, many of us fell silent when we came back to the stain of sewage
that Mr. Kerry had thrown on us, and all of our colleagues who served over
there. I don't intend to be silent today or ever again. Our young men and
women who are serving deserve no less."
--
Andrew
Horne
"In
my specific, personal experience in both coastal and river patrols over a
12-month period, I never once saw or heard anything remotely resembling
the atrocities described by Senator Kerry. If I had, it would have been my
obligation to report them in writing to a higher authority, and I would
certainly have done that. If Senator Kerry actually witnessed or
participated in these atrocities or, as he described them, 'war crimes,'
he was obligated to report them. That he did not until later when it
suited his political purposes strikes me as opportunism of the worst kind.
That he would malign my service and that of his fellow sailors with no
regard for the truth makes him totally unqualified to serve as
Commander-in-Chief."
--
Jeffrey Wainscott
"I
signed that letter because I, too felt a deep sense of betrayal that
someone who took the same oath of loyalty as I did as an officer in the
United States Navy would abandon his group here (points to group photo) to
join this group here (points to VVAW protest photo), and come home and
attempt to rally the American public against the effort that this group
was so valiantly pursuing.
It
is a fact that in the entire Vietnam War we did not lose one major battle.
We lost the war at home ... and at home, John Kerry was the Field
General."
--
Robert Elder
"My
daughters and my wife have read portions of the book 'Tour of Duty.' They
wanted to know if I took part in the atrocities described. I do not
believe the things that are described happened.
Let
me give you an example. In Brinkley's book, on pages 170 to 171, about
something called the 'Bo De massacre' on November 24th of 1968... In
Kerry's description of the engagement, first he claimed there were 17
servicemen that were wounded. Three of us were wounded. I was the
first..."
--
Joseph Ponder
.
"While
in Cam Rahn Bay, he trained on several 24-hour
indoctrination missions, and one special skimmer operation with my most
senior and trusted Lieutenant. The briefing from some members of that crew
the morning after revealed that they had not received any enemy fire, and
yet Lt.(jg) Kerry informed me of a wound -- he showed me a scratch on his
arm and a piece of shrapnel in his hand that appeared to be from one of
our own M-79s. It was later reported to me that Lt.(jg) Kerry had fired an
M-79, and it had exploded off the adjacent shoreline. I do not recall
being advised of any medical treatment, and probably said something like
'Forget it.' He later received a Purple Heart for that scratch, and I have
no information as to how or whom.
Lt.(jg)
Kerry was allowed to return to the good old USA after 4 months and a few days
in-country, and then he proceeded to betray his former shipmates, calling
them criminals who were committing atrocities. Today we are here to tell
you that just the opposite is true. Our rules of engagement were quite
strict, and the officers and men of Swift often did not even return fire
when they were under fire if there was a possibility that innocent people
-- fishermen, in a lot of cases -- might be hurt or injured. The rules and
the good intentions of the men increased the possibility that we might
take friendly casualties."
--
Commander Grant Hibbard, USN (retired)
.
"Lt.
Kerry returned home from the war to make some outrageous statements and
allegations... of numerous criminal acts in violation of the law of war
were cited by Kerry, disparaging those who had fought with honor in that
conflict. Had war crimes been committed by US forces in Vietnam? Yes, but such acts were few and far
between. Yet Lt. Kerry gave numerous speeches and testimony before
Congress inappropriately leading his audiences to believe that what was
only an anomaly in the conduct of America's fighting men was an epidemic.
Furthermore, he suggested that they were being encouraged to violate the
law of war by those within the chain of
command.
Very
specific orders, on file at the Vietnam archives at Texas Tech University, were issued by my father [Admiral
Elmo Zumwalt] and others in his chain of command instructing subordinates
to act responsibly in preserving the life and property of Vietnamese
civilians."
--
Lt. Col. James Zumwalt, USMC )
,
retired.
. "We
look at Vietnam... after all these years it is still
languishing in isolated poverty and helplessness and tyranny. This is John
Kerry's legacy. I deeply resent John Kerry's using his Swift boat
experience, and his betrayal of those who fought there as a stepping-stone
to his political ambitions."
--
Barnard Wolff
"In
a whole year that I spent patrolling, I didn't see anything like a war
crime, an atrocity, anything like that. Time and again I saw American
fighting men put themselves in graver danger trying to avoid... collateral
damage.
When
John Kerry returned to the country, he was sworn in front of Congress. And
then he told my family -- my parents, my sister, my brother, my neighbors
-- he told everyone I knew and everyone I'd ever know that I and my
comrades had committed unspeakable atrocities."
--
David Wallace
"I
served with these guys. I went on missions with them, and these men served
honorably. Up and down the chain of command there was no acquiescence to
atrocities. It was not condoned, it did not happen, and it was not
reported to me verbally or in writing by any of these men including
Lt.(jg) Kerry.
In
1971, '72, for almost 18 months, he stood before the television audiences
and claimed that the 500,000 men and women in Vietnam, and in combat, were all villains --
there were no heroes. In 2004, one hero from the Vietnam War has appeared,
running for President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief. It just galls
one to think about it."
--
Captain George Elliott,
USN (retired)
"During
the Vietnam War I was Task Force Commander at An Thoi, and my tour of duty
was 13 months, from the end of Tet to the beginning of the Vietnamization
of the Navy units.
Now
when I went there right after Tet, I was restricted in my movements. I
couldn't go much of anyplace because the Vietcong controlled most of the
area. When I left, I could go anywhere I wanted, just about. Commerce was
booming, the buses were running, trucks were going, the waterways were
filled with sampans with goods going to market, but yet in Kerry's
biography he says that our operations were a complete failure. He also
mentions a formal conference with me, to try to get more air cover and so
on. That conference never happened..."
--
Captain Adrian Lonsdale, USCG (retired)
"I
was in An Thoi from June of '68 to June of '69, covering the whole period
that John Kerry was there. I operated in every river, in every canal, and
every off-shore patrol area in the 4th Corps area, from Cambodia all the way around to the Bo De
River. I never saw, even heard of all of these so-called atrocities and
things that we were supposed to have
done.
This
is not true. We're not standing for it. We want to set the record
straight."
--
William Shumadine
"In
1971, when John Kerry spoke out to America, labeling all Vietnam veterans
as thugs and murderers, I was shocked and almost brought to my knees,
because even though I had served at the same time and same unit, I had
never witnessed or participated in any of the events that the Senator had
accused us of. I strongly believe that the statements made by the Senator
were not only false and inaccurate, but extremely harmful to the
United
States' efforts in
Southeast
Asia and the rest of the
world. Tragically, some veterans, scorned by the antiwar movement and
their allies, retreated to a life of despair and suicide. Two of my
crewmates were among them. For that there is no forgiveness.
"
--
Richard O'Meara
"My
name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty
in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second
tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of
my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody
else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away
from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our
boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man
like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be
our Commander-in-Chief?"
--
Steven Gardner
"I
served in Vietnam as a boat officer from June of 1968
to July of 1969. My service was three months in Coastal Division 13 out of
Cat Lo, and nine months with Coastal Division 11 based in An Thoi. John
Kerry was in An Thoi the same time I was. I'm here today to express the
anger I have harbored for over 33 years, about being accused with my
fellow shipmates of war atrocities.
All
I can say is when I leave here today, I'm going down to the Wall to tell
my two crew members it's not true, and that they and the other 49 Swiftees
who are on the Wall were then and are still now the
best."
--
Robert Brant
"I
never saw, heard of, or participated in any Swift boat crews killing
cattle, poisoning crops, or raping and killing civilians as charged by
John Kerry, both in his book and in public statements. Since we both
operated at the same time, in the same general area, and on the same
missions under the same commanders, it is hard to believe his claims of
atrocities and poor planning of Sea Lord
missions.
I
signed this letter because I feel that he used Swift boat sailors to
proclaim his antiwar statements after the war, and now he uses the same
Swift boat sailors to support his claims of being a war hero. He cannot
have it both ways, and we are here to ask for full disclosure of the proof
of his claims."
--
James Steffes
.
.Please,
forward this to everybody on your lists. Voters in the United States
of America need to see
this article to get a genuine understanding of Kerry. Thanks .... Last
Updated Monday, May 17
2004 @ 12:16 PM
PDT

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